Seat Sharing of PG seats in Karnataka

Dear Friends,


As you are aware of the fact that the PG seats of Ayurveda in Karnataka has increased to good numbers this year in different private colleges. This year there are 400 + PG seats approved in Karnataka. Out of them, only 50 seats are approved in Government colleges. Other seats are approved for the colleges run by Private Managements.The current seat saring ratio between Management and Government quota is 75:25 in Private colleges. It is understood that even though the number of seats have increased, more number native students of karnataka cannot take admissions for the PG course because of the existing Seat sharing policy. The first 50 students who have stood top in the entrance examination can take admission in the Government colleges and further around 100 students can take admission in Private colleges paying higher fees. The management quota is usually filled by students from other states by paying huge donations. Now, every year there are more number (More than 50%) of other state students who study in karnataka, become PG graduates and  go back to their states to practice/ teach Ayurveda. This is a major draw back for the development of higher education in Karnataka. The nimber of Pg graduates who would practice and teach ayurveda in Karnataka will be very less. This would reflect on the recruitment process of Ayurveda graduates in the government sector. One such example is the appointment of Retired Government teachers in Government Ayurveda colleges of karnataka even though there are lot of PG graduates in Karnataka. 

 Karnataka can boast of having the highest number PG seats compared to any other state in India. But, the question  is how many students of Karnataka are benefitted, in turn how far the state is benefitted. 

On behalf of all the PG aspirants, we can approach the concerned authorities and have a dialouge to modify the seat sharing ratio between Management and Government seats.

Kindly post your comments on this blog with your Name, contact number and e-mail ID for further correspondence. 

Regards,

AYURUTTHANA

Memorandum to the Director -10th October

Dear Friends,

 Here with attached is the Memorandum submitted to the Director, Dept. of AYUSH karnataka on 10/10/2011. The director has assured the counseling to happen by the end of October 2011. 

From,                                            Date: 10/10/2011

Ayurveda PG aspirants 2011, Karnataka

To, 

The Director,

Dept. of AYUSH,

Govt. of Karnataka

Sub: Delay in counseling of Ayurveda PG seats in Karnataka 2011-regarding

Sir,

As you are aware, this year The Rajiv Gandhi University of Health Sciences, Karnataka conducted PG entrance exams for admission in (Ayurveda, Homoeopathy, Physiotherapy, Nursing and pharmacy) post-graduation courses on the 3rd of April 2011. The merit list of the same was announced on 23rd April 2011. But till now there has been no notification for the counseling for allotment of seats for the PG aspirants of Ayurveda. The first year post-graduation course is scheduled to start from first week of June in all constituent colleges under RGUHS. 

We would like to draw your attention to our earlier Memorandum dated 20^th June 2011 regarding the same issue. We had received an oral reply from you that as soon the approval of Ayurveda colleges in Karnataka is notified by the Dept. of AYUSH, Govt. of India, the seat Matrix will be immediately prepared and the counseling conducted. The Dept. of AYUSH has already notified the updated approval Status which covers all Ayurveda PG colleges in Karnataka on 16^th September 2011. (Ref: Official website of Dept. of AYUSH,-www.indianmedicine.nic.in)

We were anticipating the counseling to happen at least by the end of September 2011. But the University has not notified the date of counseling till now. Enquiry in the University refers to Dept. of AYUSH, Karnataka not submitting the seat matrix. This is the first time that the PG counseling in Karnataka is delayed for so much.   In Maharashtra, the counseling was conducted as soon as the approval of the PG colleges was notified by the Dept. of AYUSH, Govt. of India.

 In the Memorandum submitted on 20^th June 2011, we had requested you to look into the irregularities regarding the counseling process. Though you were kind enough to form a committee comprising of Dr. Mangalagi and Dr. M. Ramesh to verify the facts and had ordered submission of a report, there is no information on the progress in this regard.  

This has resulted in a lot of confusion and uncertainty in the PG aspirants of Karnataka regarding the process of counseling and also availability of seats under Govt. quota. 

The non- availability of seat matrix in time has led to the following consequences-

1. Delay in counseling leading to missed opportunities for taking up other entrance examinations elsewhere. 

2. Delay leading to postponement of first year exams of MD/MS courses upto 6 months.

3. Not announcing seat matrix in advance 

On behalf of all the Ayurveda PG aspirants of Karnataka we request you to kindly look into the matter very seriously and start the counseling process as soon as possible.

Thanking you,                                                               AYURVEDA PG ASPIRANTS 2011, KARNATAKA

Ayurveda PGET issue in Vijaya karnataka Page 10, Aug 2nd 2011

Association of Ayurveda PG aspirants, karnataka

Harihi Om !.....

Dear Vaidya/ Vaidyaa,

Welcome to Association of Ayurveda PG aspirants, karnataka 

(ayurvedavachaspati@gmail.com)

        Its pleasure informing you that our plea was welcomed by the Director, Sri Srikantaiah. He said, this should be considered as a serious issue. He has directed for verification of facts based on our memorandum. A committee comprising of Dr. Mangalagi and Dr. M. Ramesh will work on this and are supposed to submit a report soon.We will have to follow-up the process seriously. 

However he expressed doubt about conducting the counseling at the earliest as the Dept. of AYUSH, Govt. of India is still in the process granting permission to run the colleges and also the number of PG seats to be alloted to the colleges. Even in the Dept. of AYUSH, NewDelhi, they are giving topmost priority for karnataka and On 22nd June there is hearing at the Dept. of AYUSH, New Delhi as there is pressure from the Karnataka Examination authority for the UG counseling.

After this,  We met the Superintendent In-charge at the AYUSH office. He explained us many things about the issue.

He says-

1. The seat matrix is being delayed as compared to earlier years(up to 2008) because of the CCIM's delayed inspection and evaluating process.

2. Once the CCIM sends the recommendations to the Dept, of AYUSH, Govt of India, CCIM thinks that their work is over. They do not follow-up. The college managements whose UG or PG seats are not approved by CCIM will approach the Dept. of AYUSH Govt.Of India. The Govt.of India which has to take the final decision works in its own pace. After the CBI probe, they have an order that they are supposed to work on First come first serve basis. I.e. the college managements form a particular state should send their application through their State AYUSH at the earliest. Which ever state represents with maximum number of colleges that state will be considered for evaluation. The colleges from karnataka are delaying the submission as they have to prepare many things on paper atleast to somehow get permission to run their institution. This is also a reason for the delay. Earlier this was not happening because the CCIM was not so strict. since last year, CCIM is not recommending many so called good colleges like Govt Ayurveda college, B'lore, Mysore, SDM Ayurveda college, Hassan, Udupi etc. 

3. Now, if the Dept.of AYUSH permits certain colleges, they will send the permission letter to the concerned college. The college has to send a copy of this letter to the State AYUSH. The colleges delay that purposefully. The RGUHS considers the seat matrix for the counseling issued by the Dept. of AYUSH, karnataka and not from DELHI. This is the reason last year colleges like kalabhairaveshwara were not included for counseling though they had got the permission letter from Dept. of AYUSH, Delhi. They purposefully submitted the letter to State AYUSH after the counseling so that they can provide all the seats to students under management quota. 

4. Now, if we consider the same seat matrix, this year we may get 155 seats in the counseling. Last year it was 97 only. But the problem is, this year once again maximum number of colleges  are not recommended by CCIM. This year also the same drama is continuing. If many colleges are not permitted by the Govt. of India, the number of seats may slash down drastically. 

What may happen?  

 The director has framed the committee. What will the committee do? They will just report all that I have explained above. They will say that the RGUHS was transparent. No irregularities were found. The RGHUS follows the instruction of the Dept. of AYUSH, Karnataka. Nobody is responsible for the delay. The evaluating process at different levels took time. 

What can we do? 

 What we can now do is to take the report submitted by the committee and  go to the Minister for Medical education and tell him 

A) Consider the seat matrix of the CCIM published till date in their website(Status of Ayurveda colleges for the year 2010-11) and order for the counseling immediately so that it gives us maximum seats.

                                                                                       OR

B) Ask the Minister to recommend the Central ministry for immediate evaluation of seat matrix. The seat matrix should be sent to the Dept of AYUSH, Karnataka and not to the colleges so that RGUHS considers that and conducts the counseling soon.

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Requesting your support and inputs regarding this,

With warm Regards,

Team of APGAK (Ayurveda PG Aspirants, Karnataka)

Please send us your latest contact numbers to update you immediately at ayurvedavachaspati@gmail.com

Prathama prayatna

Dear Ayurveda Friends,

Today, the 20th June 2011 we met The Director, Dept. of AYUSH,Karnataka with a memorandum. The memorandum was as follows

From, Date: 20/06/2011

Ayurveda PG aspirants 2011, Karnataka

To, 

The Director,

Dept. of AYUSH,

Govt. of Karnataka

Sub: Delay in counseling of Ayurveda PG seats in Karnataka 2011-regarding

Sir,

As you are aware of the fact that this year The Rajiv Gandhi University of Health Sciences, Karnataka conducted PG entrance exams for admission in (Ayurveda, Homoeopathy, Physiotherapy, Nursing and pharmacy) post-graduation courses on the 3rd of April 2011. The merit list of the same was declared on 23rd April 2011. But until now there has been no notification for the counseling for allotment of seats for the PG aspirants.  The first year post-graduation course is scheduled to start from first week of June in all constituent colleges under RGUHS. But the counseling is delayed due to non-availability of seat matrix from the Dept. of AYUSH, Govt. of India.

As you are also aware of the fact that last year the seat matrix in PG seats of Ayurveda colleges all over India was published very late. This resulted in a lot of confusion in the PG aspirants specially in Karnataka. 

The non- availability of seat matrix in time has led to the following consequences-

• Delay in counseling thus leading to missed opportunities for taking up other entrance examinations elsewhere. 
• Delay leading to postponement of first year exams of MD/MS courses.
• Not announcing seat matrix in advance 
• Matrix announced by Govt. not followed by RGUHS. 

[Ex for the point 4-: The PG seats in 2 subjects (5 seats in each subject) in Sri Kalabhairaveshwara Ayurvedic Medical college was granted by the Dept. of AYUSH, Govt. of India on 27th September 2010. (PG- 02 Subjects GOI letter No. R. 14011/29/2009-EP dated27.09.2010- Ref- Official website of CCIM-www.ccimindia.org). But the RGUHS did not include this college for the counseling which was held on 6th October 2010. All the seats were filled through management quota thus deceiving Karnataka PGET candidates of the opportunity to take admission in the particular college.]

On behalf of all the Ayurveda PG aspirants of Karnataka we request you to kindly look into the matter very seriously and start the counseling process as soon as possible.

We also request you to see to it that no irregularities as last year to be repeated in the counseling process and making it a  transparent one which would justify the aim of higher education in Ayurveda.

Thanking You, AYURVEDA PG ASPIRANTS 2011, KARNATAKA

The director considered our plea as an important and serious issue and has directed for verification of the above said issues.

 He has framed a team which will verify the facts and submit a report to the him at the earliest. This is certainly a positive thing for us. This may solve the seat matrix issue soon and make the RGUHS counseling more transparent.

Ayurveda PG Aspirants, Karnataka-Appeal

Ayurveda PGET counselling 2011

Dear Doctor Friends,

As you are already aware of the fact that every year the Ayurveda PGET counselling is delayed because of the delayed process of preparation of Seat matrix by CCIM. This has led to delay in commencement of classes in Pg institutes. The students who get admitted this way are not allowed to take up their 1st year exams as scheduled.They will be considered as a odd batch. so, they will have to either write the supplementary exams or write the exams next year.Finally u end up in completing your PG . HOW MANY MORE YEARS U WANNA STUDY GUYS!!!???
Arise!!! Let us approach the CCIM authorities and request them to fasten the process of assessment of colleges and prepare the seat matrix. This will also fasten the process of counselling by RGUHS.

Kindly collect the mobile numbers and e-mail ID s of all the PG aspirants you know and mail them to ayursriharsha@gmail.com or anagha_aqui04@yahoo.com

Let us meet and discuss as how to go about further.....